arikinder (7/29/2010 1:05:56 PM): My friend, you need to find the truth of Jesus Christ and leave behind the lie of Islam
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:10:43 PM): WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT ISLAM?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:06:54 PM): I know that it does not accept Jesus Christ and is therefore wrong
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:11:15 PM): TELL ME WRONG THING IN ISLAM
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:11:33 PM): WE ACCEPT JESUS
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:07:20 PM): No, you don’t
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:11:50 PM): JESUS WAS MASSENGER OF GOD
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:07:39 PM): He was more than a messenger
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:12:04 PM): MORE?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:07:50 PM): He was the only begotten Son of God
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:07:58 PM): God the Son
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:08:16 PM): IF YOU SAY GOD THEN I WILL NOT
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:08:22 PM): what?
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:08:42 PM): JESUS WAS NOT GOD…
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:09:07 PM): Oh but He was
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:09:23 PM): HOW HE WAS GOD?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:09:25 PM): You see, you call Him a Prophet but then you deny who He was
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:09:29 PM): PROVE IT
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:09:36 PM): scripture proves it
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:10:04 PM): GOD DON'T NEED TO EATE ANYTHING
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:10:19 PM): BUT JESUS EATE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:10:45 PM): God the Father didn’t eat anything. God the Son came to earth in human flesh, therefore He did.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:11:56 PM): IT MEANS YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT AADAM WAS GOD BECAUSE HE HAD NO FATHER NO MOTHER
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:12:06 PM): No, I don’t
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:12:17 PM): I don’t know how you think that’s logical
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:13:06 PM): YOU LISTEN ZAKIR NAIK HE WILL TELL YOU TRUE PICTURE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:13:18 PM): No interested in this guy
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:13:29 PM): GO TO GOOGLE AND SEARCH BY ZAKIR NAIK
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:13:41 PM): I don’t take my advice from him. I take my advice from the word of God, the Bible.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:14:13 PM): HE WILL TELL YOU THE MEANING OF BIBLE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:14:23 PM): I have the Holy Spirit for that
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:14:36 PM): I don’t need a Muslim to tell me the meaning of the Bible
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:15:27 PM): YOU LISTEN HIM ONLY ONE TIME THEN IF YOU FEELS THAT HE IS WRONG THEN TELL ME I WILL NEVER LISTEN TO HIM
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:15:40 PM): You need to know that Jesus died for your sins on the cross and He is willing to forgive your sins if you'll simply accept Him as Lord and Savior
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:15:59 PM): Sham, the Holy Spirit, not a Muslim, guides me
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:16:40 PM): IF I COMMETED SINS THEN JESUS WILL FORGIVE ME?
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:17:08 PM): IF I COMMETED RAPE MURDERED THEN?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:17:52 PM): Nice try Sham. I'm aware of this argument by Muslims. You can be forgiven of any sin if you sincerely come to Him.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:17:54 PM): DO YOU KNOW ABOUT NOO <A.S>
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:18:45 PM): MEANS YOU HAVE FOREGIVEN BY JESUS?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:19:01 PM): Yes, I have forgiveness of Jesus
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:19:48 PM): and you can too
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:20:01 PM): THATS WHY CHRISTIANS COMMETED MORE SINS THAT THEY THINK THAT THEY HAVE FORGIVEN BYE JESUS
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:20:29 PM): No, we don’t
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:20:32 PM): I ACCEPT JESUS BUT NOT ACCEPT THAT HE IS GOD
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:20:35 PM): Jesus said go and sin no more
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:20:56 PM): You don’t accept Jesus unless you accept who He is, which is God the Son
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:20:57 PM): THEN WHY YOU DO CRIMES?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:21:02 PM): I don’t
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:21:21 PM): YOUR LANGUAGE IS POLLITE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:21:27 PM): Thank you.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:21:36 PM): I THINK YOU ARE NICE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:21:41 PM): I appreciate that
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:22:23 PM): YOU HAVE CONFUSED ME IS JESUS WAS GOD OR SON OF GOD
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:22:37 PM): He was God the Son,
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:23:37 PM): Sham, I haven’t confused you. You know exactly what I’m speaking of.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:23:54 PM): TELL ME CAN GOD DO SEX WITH A WOMEN?
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:24:19 PM): IF NOT THEN HOW A SON CAN BE BORN?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:24:39 PM): Jesus was miraculously conceived.
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:24:50 PM): It’s called a miracle
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:25:17 PM): MARYAM A.S WAS WIFE OF GOD?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:25:44 PM): Don’t be facetious. You know perfectly well the answer to that question
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:25:50 PM): YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I ACCEPT IT Jesus was miraculously conceived. arikinder: It’s called a miracle
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:26:37 PM): BUT IT IS NOT FAIR TO CALL JESUS WAS SON
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:26:49 PM): It is fair, because that’s who He was
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:27:16 PM): He was the ONLY begotten Son of God. He is the only way to the Father.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:27:49 PM): WHY GOD SENT HIS SON TO EARTH?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:28:19 PM): For the forgiveness of sins. He was sent to live a sinless life and take our punishment for our sins on the cross
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:28:28 PM): NO FATHER CAN PUSH HIS CHILD IN TOUGH CONDITION
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:28:58 PM): Jesus was in perfect harmony with the Father. He did so out of obedience and love for mankind
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:29:05 PM): CAN GOD NOT FORGIVE US?
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:29:37 PM): YOU LISTEN ZAKIR NAIK
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:29:48 PM): The Word of God says the wages of sin is death. Only a perfect sacrifice could take away the sins of the world
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:29:52 PM): No thanks
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:29:59 PM): I have no interest in this fellow
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:30:23 PM): As I’ve already said, I don’t take my advice on God from a Muslim
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:30:25 PM): YOUR FATHER PRIEST ETC ACCEPT THAT WHAT ZAKIR NAIK SAID ABOUT JESUS
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:30:53 PM): I don’t care what zakir said. I care what God says.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:31:18 PM): HE JUST PROVE THAT JESUS WAS NOT GOD
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:31:30 PM): He can’t disprove what the Bible already proves
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:31:40 PM): HE GIVE REFERENCE TO BIBLE NOT FROM QURRAN
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:32:08 PM): In John 8:58, Jesus said, ""Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:32:12 PM): HE GIVE UNDERSTANDING ABOUT BIBLE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:32:35 PM): Sham, He can reference it but he had no understanding about it. He lacks the Holy Spirit to guide him.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:32:53 PM): EVERY PROPHIT WAS BORN
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:33:05 PM): So what?
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:33:29 PM): WHERE HE SAID I AM GOD?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:33:36 PM): In John 8:58, Jesus said, ""Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:33:41 PM): I AM SON OF GOD?
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:34:34 PM): DO YOU ACCEPT THAT GOD KNOWS EVERYTHINK?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:34:49 PM): He just said that before Abraham was born, I am. Abraham was born thousands of years before Jesus and yet Jesus says He predates Abraham and even uses the name, "I am" which references His divinity.
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:35:47 PM): In John 10:33 the Jews say to Him ""You, being a man, make yourself out to be God,""
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:35:58 PM): WHY GOD SAID WHERE ARE YOU JESUS WHEN JESUS WAS COMMITED SIN AND EATEN FRUIT OF PROHIBITED TREE/...............
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:36:13 PM): Jesus never did that. That was Adam
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:36:14 PM): READ THE BIBLE FROM BEGNING
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:36:23 PM): That wasn’t Jesus.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:36:38 PM): YES ADAM
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:36:49 PM): GOOD KNOWLEDGE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:36:50 PM): You are the one who needs to read the Bible if you don’t know the difference between Jesus and Adam
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:37:02 PM): I HAVE CHECKED YOU
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:37:14 PM): Sham, I won’t play games with you
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:37:29 PM): I ALSO
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:38:00 PM): WHY GOD SAID WHERE ARE YOU WHEN AADAM WAS COMMITED SIN AND EATEN FRUIT OF PROHIBITED TREE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:38:42 PM): Because He was forcing Adam to openly reveal his sin.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:38:54 PM): NO NO NO
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:39:00 PM): yes yes yes
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:39:18 PM): BIBLE HAVE A MISTAKE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:39:27 PM): No, it doesn’t
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:39:57 PM): You haven’t proven any mistake
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:40:37 PM): I guess the Quran has no mistakes?
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:41:00 PM): Sham, that was a question
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:41:23 PM): SCINTIFICALLY BIBLE IS NOT CORRECT IT DOES NOT MEAS THAT GOD COMMETED MISTAKE BUT YOU HAVE CHANGED BIBLE
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:41:36 PM): NONONONONONONONONOONONONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:41:52 PM): QURRAN PAK HAVE NO MISTAKE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:41:52 PM): Really then what was man created out of, according to the Quran
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:42:03 PM): ASK FROM ZAKIR
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:42:20 PM): No, you asked me questions. Now I’m asking you.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:42:29 PM): WATER
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:42:40 PM): “Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2).
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:42:56 PM): I HAVE LITTLE KNOWLEDGE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:42:57 PM): “We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26).
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:43:08 PM): “The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:43:22 PM): “He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:43:35 PM): The Quran says all of these. Which is correct?
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:43:52 PM): ALL ARE COORET
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:44:03 PM): lol
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:44:14 PM): IF A PERSON SAY THAT I MAKE A TOY FROM MUD
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:44:27 PM): THEN SAY FROM PLASIC
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:44:37 PM): THEN SAY IRON
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:44:45 PM): Then they are a liar
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:45:14 PM): IT MEANS THE TOY IS MADE BY HIM FROM MUD PLASTIC AND IRON
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:45:30 PM): Who was the first Muslim?
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:45:33 PM): OK YOU ARE LOL
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:46:14 PM): MUHAMMAD P.B.U.H was 1SRT
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:46:17 PM): And I [Muhammad] am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam," (39:12).
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:46:27 PM): "When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee." Allah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe." (7:143).
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:46:40 PM): "And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; "Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam," (2:132). "
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:46:59 PM): Which was it? Muhammad? Abraham? Jacob? or Moses?
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:47:28 PM): Muhammad
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:47:48 PM): Then why does to Quran say all three, in different places.
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:47:49 PM): And I [Muhammad] am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam," (39:12).
sham.sha98 (7/29/2010 1:48:58 PM): ISLAM IS NOT JUST TO BOW BUT TO ACCEPT THAT MUHAMMAD IS LAST MASSENGER OF ALLAH PAK AND ALLAH IS ONE
arikinder (7/29/2010 1:49:19 PM): Then something is wrong with Chapter 2:132 of the Quran